The Family of
Pierre Alexandre Turpin
of Montreal, Canada
& Wife
Marie Charlotte Beauvais dit St. Jemme
Page Created by Sadie Greening Sparks
NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE
Pierre Alexandre Turpin was born CA 1641 in France. His parents have not been determined. He married his first wife, Catherine De'Lorn in 1666 in Montreal and she died in Montreal on Mar 9, 1683. He married Marie Charlotte Beauvais dit St. Jemme on October 30, 1684 in Montreal, daughter of Jacques Beauvais dit St. Jemme & Jeanne Solde', also of Montreal. Marie Charlotte was born June 26, 1667 in Montreal and died Dec 25, 1700 Montreal, only days after her last child was born.
Pierre Alexandre married his third wife Marie Gautier on Feb. 25, 1702, by whom he had a son, and then a daughter born Aug. 17, 1705, so he died sometime after this date. Some records give his death date as Sept 15, 1709, but the same records indicate he was listed in the 1710 Detroit census, and later in Kaskaskia, Ill. post. One of these dates has to be incorrect.
Many of his descendants lived in early Chartres & Kaskaskia, Ill. Country.
Ref: Tanguay-7 vols
Children: Turpin (by wife #1)
1.. Jeanne Born Sept 25, 1665 Quebec Died Nov 12, 1665 Quebec
2. Elizabeth Born Oct 24, 1667 Montreal Died: Jan 3, 1747 Canada
(M) Raphael Beauvais Mar 24, 1683 Montreal
Some of their descendants were in Kaskaskia & Chartres, Ill
3. Alexandre Romain Born June 2, 1670 Died Aug 10, 1747 Montreal
4. Jean Bte. Born Oct 7, 1673 Died pr to 1737
Marie Jeanne (Indian @ Mobile)
He appears in 1700 Census of Biloxi, 1711 Mobile, 1726 & 1732 Illinois
Census as 'Turpin the elder"
5. Marie Madeleine Born Aug 30, 1677 Died Nov 11, 1744
(M) Noel LeVasseur April 3, 1701 Montreal
Children by # 2 wife Marie Charlotte Beauvais dit St. Jemme
6. Jean Bte. Born Nov 23, 1685 Montreal Died:
(M) Margarette Fafart-Cousseau May 5, 1710 Detroit Post
7. Louise Born April 6, 1687 Died: July 11, 1687 Montreal
8. Jeanne Born Sept 7, 1688 Died: Sept 9, 1688
9. Marie Charlotte Born July 13, 1691 Died: July 17, 1767
Montreal
(M) Nicholas LeGras CA 1717
(M) # 2 Simon Reaume @ Lachine Sept 10, 1722
10 Louis Born May 15, 1694 Montreal Died: 1752 Chartres, Ill
Post
(M) Marie Cousson
(M) #2 Dorothy Mechiperouta (Indian) Sept 11, 1724 Kaskaskia, Ill
(M) #3 Helaine Hebert Mar 21, 1751 Kaskaskia, Ill (Louis died soon after as
Helaine (M) Henry Charpentier Dec 29, 1752)
11. Joseph Born June 21, 1696 Montreal Died: 1749/50
(Prior to Mar, 1750) Kaskaskia, Ill Post
(M) Hypolite Chauvin de la Freniere @ New Orleans, La. Nov, 7, 1731, Dtr of
Nicholas Chauvin de la Freniere & Indian slave, named Catherine
Joseph Turpin & Hypolite Chauvin had 1 dtr & 1 son
Hypolite Chauvin LaFreniere (M) #2 Joseph De LaMirande @ Kaskaskia Post, Ill on
Mar 19, 1750
12. Jacques Born July 25, 1698 Died July 3, 1723 Kaskaskia Ill Post
13. Marie Madeleine Born Dec 18, 1700
(M) Pierre Babin dit LaCrosse April 4, 1723 Boucherville
By #3 wife
14. Marie Suzanne Born Aug 17, 1705 Lachine, Ile de Montreal
(M) Jean Laroche Oct 29, 1723 Montreal
15. Francois Born March 21, 1704 Lachine, Ile de Montreal (Died
w/o Issue*)
(*Ref: Grassroots of America, American State Papers,
Public Lands Vol 2, P 127-128-
1681 Census of Montreal
Alexandre Turpin 40
Catherine Delor, sa femme 40
enfants: Elizabeth 14, Alexandre 10, Jean 8, Madeleine 4
1 fusil, 1 vache; 10 arpents en valeur
----------------------------------------------------
Grassroots of America, American State Papers, Public Lands
Vol 2 P 127, 128
LAND CLAIMS IN THE DISTRICT OF KASKASKIA
Commissioners Office, Kaskaskia, February 24, 1810
DOCUMENTS
The following reports of cases rejected will serve to show the government the
grounds on which claims were rejected, as well as how laborious and impossible
it is for the Board to transmit, at the present time, a full copy of the
testimony in this class of claims
No 2044-John Edgar-Claims twelve arpents square, on the east side of the Kaskaskia Riv., opposite the town, bounded northwardly by lands of this claimant, southwardly by lands formerly held by the Jesuits; this being held as assignee of Francis, Michel, Joseph, Jean Bte. Jerome, Philip, and Ursal, Derouse, St. Pierre, and Joseph Thibault, who were heirs of Joseph Turpin, deceased; which said lands were granted by a French commandant in the year 1742.
Remarks-The records in this case seem to be lost. The Board, however, find a record of concession to Joseph Turpin by Messrs. De Bienville, Governor of Louisiana, and Salmon, Intendant of said Provence, on the 2nd day of August, 1743 (See United States Register, Book B, P 178, of a piece of land adjoining this, on the hills eastwardly, in which the grant of an implacement at this place is mentioned as having been previously made to said Turpin) This, under these circumstances, the Board take to be sufficient proofs of ancient allotments. But as this tract is also claimed by Pierre Menard, as assignee of Francis Turpin, said to be the son of said Joseph (See No 1939) the Board being in doubt which of these two claimants has the legal right, do therefore affirm the same to the legal representatives or heirs of the said Joseph Turpin. (Revised on recent testimony)
It is stated by this claimant, as well as by Pierre Menard (See the Claim 1939), in their respective notices, that the tract here claimed was originally conceded by the French Government to Joseph Turpin, under whom they both claim; said Menard by deed, dated July 29, 1801, in which this tract is conveyed to said Menard by Francis Turpin, styling himself the son of said Joseph, and John Edgar, by deed dated 10th April, 1803, in which the same tract is conveyed by Michel, Francis, Joseph, J.Baptiste, Jerome, Philip, Ursal DeRouse, St. Pierre, and Joseph Francis, and Marie Thebault, styling themselves to be the children and little children and heirs of the late Marie Joseph Turpin, widow of St. Pierre Derouse, deceased, which Marie Joseph Turpin was (as is stated in said deed) niece and only heir of said Joseph Turpin, late of Kaskaskia, deceased.
The question now rises, who was the legal heir of Joseph Turpin? the said Francis, or the said Marie Joseph Turpin?
To this point, Edgar adduces the following testimony, to wit: that of Equin Deinville (taken, by direction of this Board, before Moses Austin, Esq. of Louisiana) stating that four or five months after the death of Joseph Turpin, Madame Turpin went to the Ohio with a certain Lamarande (LaMirande); and, on their return to Kaskaskia, she proved with child, and after some difficulties, they were married; that, after the marriage, Madame LaMarande had a son whose birth must have been about sixteen months after the death of said Joseph Turpin. He adduces, also, the testimony of Marie Turgeon, taken before John Hay and Nicholas Jarrot, Esqs. at Cahokia, stating that she never knew that Turpin Maran (supposed to mean Joseph Turpin) ever had but one daughter, called Magdaline, that married afterwards one Pierre LeVigne; and after the death of said Turpin, the widow married one Lamarande, but does not know that they had any children. On the other hand, Pierre Menard adduces the testimony of Pierre Richard, an ancient inhabitant of the country, taken before this Board, stating that this deponent (being 64 years of age) was well acquainted with a certain Joseph Turpin, who died at Kaskaskia, when he, this deponent, was about ten years of age; that the said Joseph was married to a woman whose name he does not now recollect, but who was, after his death, married to a man by the name Lamarande; that the said widow had a son by the first husband a few months after his death, who was called Francis Turpin, also Lamarande, in consequence of his mother having married Lamarande; that this deponent was well acquainted with the family of the said Francis who was always considered as the son of Joseph Turpin, deceased. The deponent cannot say how many months after the death of the said Turpin the birth of the said Francis took place, but that it was said that the mother of the said Francis was pregnant with him at the death of the said Joseph Turpin. He further adduces the testimony of St. Jeme Beauvais and Vital St. Jeme Beauvais (whose characters for information, respectability and integrity, are, as this Board suppose, well known to the Government) stating that the said Joseph Turpin was Uncle of their father, that it is perfectly within their knowledge that he had two children by Hypolite, his wife, one of them called Magdaline Turpin, and the other Francis Turpin, surnamed Lamarande; both of whom were to their knowledge, born within the marriage of the said Joseph Turpin with the said Hypolite; and that they have always been regarded by the deponents as the legitimate children of the said Joseph and Hypolite; and lastly, that the estate of the said Joseph had been equally divided between them. It appears further, by the testimony of Joseph & Jerome Derouse St. Pierre, two of the apparent grantors in the deed to Edgar, that the said Marie Joseph Turpin was the daughter of Louis Turpin, the brother of the said Joseph, who had another brother by the name of Francis,* who died without issue, as did also the issue of the said Louis, excepting the mother of these deponents.
Remarks-It has been stated in the testimony of the above Marie Turgeon, that said Joseph Turpin had a daughter named Magdeleine, who married a certain Lavigne; but this Board are not informed by either claim whether she is dead or has issue.
It is remarkable in this case, that said Edgar relies for his title to a tract bounding on the one here claimed on a conveyance from this very Francis Turpin, styling himself son of the said Joseph, through whom the said property came, to John R. Jones, from whom the said Edgar purchased, and that on this conveyance said title has been actually confirmed (see his claim 2105) It is further most remarkable that the said Joseph and Jerome St. Pierre, two of the apparent grantors in the said Edgar deed, have, on their oaths, utterly denied ever having executed such an instrument, or knowing any thing of such a transaction, and also, that John Hague, an apparent witness, has, on his oath, denied ever having signed his name to the said deed, or known anything of such a transaction. It is also to be remarked, that the said deed has been acknowledged before Robert Reynolds, whose character as forger and perjurer will be known to the administration from our report. Under these singular circumstances, this board do not hesitate to declare their opinion that the said John Edgar has no title to the tract here claimed, and do reject his claim accordingly.
MY Note-Marie Josephe Turpin, Dtr of Louis Turpin & Dorothy
Mechiperouta (Indian wife) married Francois Derouse St. Pierre LaVerdue on May
25, 1750 at Kaskaskia, Ill Post
Children from Register (Kaskaskia, -Belting)
Joseph -Bapt on Mar 24, 1761
Jn. Bte. -Bapt. on March 15, 1762
----------------------------------------------------------------
Ref: Genealogical Dictionary of Canadian Families Incl Supplement (9 Vols -Tanguay)
French Canadian & Acadian Review
Your Ancient Canadian Family Ties-Olivier
Kaskaskia Under the French Regime, (Natalie M. Belting)
The Village of Chartes, Ill, (Brown & Dean)
First Families of Louisiana (Conrad)
New Orleans French (DeVille)
Southwest Louisiana Records (Hebert)